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Why Video Podcasts Multiplied Beyond the Man Cave

newyorker.com · Kyle Chayka · last updated

This past August, clips of the millennial comedian and podcaster Adam Friedland speaking about the war in Gaza collected millions of views online, becoming some of the year’s most influential bits of commentary. In the footage, Friedland is slouched in a leather chair on a wood-panelled stage set, wearing a blue suit jacket with jeans, his curly hair foppishly askew. The vibe is casual, but his words have a sober urgency. “They’re demeaned and dehumanized and surveilled constantly,” he says of Palestinians. Tearing up, growing more impassioned, Friedland argues that the war in Gaza amounted to a genocide, perpetrated by a people who should know better. “The fact that I still fucking care about being Jewish is embarrassing,” he adds at one point. His interlocutor, the New York congressman Ritchie Torres, a pro-Israel Democrat, appears cold and unmoved, which only makes Friedland’s emotions seem more pronounced. These fragments of media came from “The Adam Friedland Show,” a podcast launched in 2022 that has turned into a high-production-value video series distributed on YouTube and many other platforms. Friedland first became well-known online nearly a decade ago, as a host of the raunchy, leftist politics-adjacent podcast “Cum Town,” but the recent success of his video podcast has turned him into something else: an onscreen talent, a recognizable face, a televisual celebrity of the digital sphere.

In the course of 2025, the video-podcast clip in general became a major unit of discourse. Once upon a time, aspiring public intellectuals and digital-native commentators had blogs. Then they had Twitter accounts, snarking from behind cartoon avatars; then podcasts, speaking into microphones into the void; then newsletters, publishing reams of text into our inboxes. In all of those formats, the human body was conspicuously absent—but no longer. With the rise of the somewhat oxymoronic video podcast, the de-rigueur medium is a digital talk show of one, an eponymous production performed—face, body, outfit, and soul—for the camera. We don’t just listen to Friedland, Ezra Klein, “Call Her Daddy” ’s Alex Cooper, “Talk Easy” ’s Sam Fragoso, “Throwing Fits” ’s James Harris and Lawrence Schlossman, or myriad other podcast proprietors anymore; we watch, often in closeup, every expression that flits across their faces, and thus cultivate a kind of parasocial intimacy usually reserved for Hollywood actors. There is no more hiding behind a byline; the moment mandates hair stylists and makeup. And, with the end of faceless punditry, measured neutrality moves toward obsolescence, too. The quality that hosts need in order to court and maintain audiences online is a dose of charismatic feeling, preferably caught in thirty seconds or less.

A few early adopters have been broadcasting their podcasts on video for many years. Joe Rogan has been filming his podcast since it launched in 2009, and the tech tastemaker Lex Fridman started filming his conversations back in 2018. But the mass rush toward video podcasting began with the 2024 Presidential race, which made clear just how much influence on public opinion shows like Rogan’s exerted. Donald Trump, J. D. Vance, and Elon Musk all took their turns doing three-hour gab sessions with Rogan in the run-up to Election Day; that August, Trump went viral discussing addiction in an unusually touchy-feely moment on Theo Von’s video podcast. MAGA’s success reaching voters this way—and Kamala Harris’s regrettable decision not to go on Rogan—sparked a realization that the medium was more than passive man-cave listening. Early this year, YouTube revealed that a billion monthly users consumed podcasts on its platform and declared itself “the most frequently used service for listening to podcasts in the U.S.”

During Trump’s first year back in office, D.I.Y. footage of two people talking into microphones has shaped the news cycle as much as any cable network. In January, the Times columnist Ross Douthat patched Steve Bannon in over Zoom for a conversation first aired on an episode of the Times’ “Matter of Opinion” podcast and then syndicated on Douthat’s new video podcast, “Interesting Times.” In a surreal mise en scène, Douthat, appearing in high res in a cozy studio, watched Bannon’s face on a laptop as he denounced “Broligarchs” such as Musk, whose DOGE operations were ramping up at the time, signalling the first clear schism between the MAGA right and the tech overlords who backed Trump in 2024. (Watching someone watch a Zoom call is a video-podcast innovation of dubious appeal.) Then, in February, Musk made a redux appearance on Rogan’s show and delivered one of his most in-depth public discussions of DOGE; on YouTube, the episode racked up more than fourteen million views. The video podcast was suddenly a news-making venue, a makeshift press conference at a time when, thanks in part to Trump’s draconian approach to the First Amendment, press was more limited than ever.

What’s motivating the turn to video goes beyond the strategic utility of cultivating intimacy with an audience; the trend has equally to do with the structural mechanics of disseminating content online. Even as podcasts exploded in popularity during the early twenty-tens, the form had problems with discovery and distribution. Isolated bits of audio were not likely to go viral, because there was no centralized social-media-style feed for audio content, and because the major podcasting apps did not use algorithmic recommendations to help creators find fresh audiences. If you are an audio podcaster looking for listeners, you have to rely on word of mouth or pop up on other productions hoping to grab some of their fans. But, if you piggyback your audio release on video channels, you can reach new audiences through the automated feeds of YouTube, TikTok, and X. Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, apparently hoped to benefit accordingly when he débuted a video podcast, “This Is Gavin Newsom,” in March, that seemed intended to plant him in the public psyche as a 2028 Presidential contender. (By the next election, perhaps YouTube-channel-subscriber numbers will be as meaningful as a candidate’s performance in the polls.) The same month, Amy Poehler, an actor, writer, and comedy power-producer who ostensibly has little need for a new platform, launched her own video podcast, “Good Hang,” fostering a direct audience outside the usual Hollywood channels. There’s a certain levelling effect at play: no matter how big your name is, the ideal media strategy today seems to be a stage set and a microphone. In August, Taylor Swift used “New Heights,” the video podcast co-hosted by her now fiancé Travis Kelce, to divulge details of her latest album. Watching fans pore over the footage for clues in the couple’s body language, one couldn’t help but think that audio doesn’t stand a chance.

The video podcast has established a new aesthetic of information—or perhaps just revived one that was more familiar in the era of “Crossfire” debates on CNN. We watch for signs of emotional gravitas as much as for the content of what is being said. Authority adheres to hosts through their acts of sheer duration, with some broadcasting several times a week or for hours every day. Through video, we get to know our pundits the same way we engage with influencers, and the more we are convinced by their multimedia performances the more readily we join their podcasting personality cults. Increasingly, this world of digital broadcasting is embroiled in slow-burning rivalries and rhetorical fights, a Marvel universe of independent opinion-givers. In September, the writer Ta-Nehisi Coates appeared on Ezra Klein’s hit Times podcast, “The Ezra Klein Show,” which transitioned to video late last year. Coates was there to discuss a column that Klein had written about the assassination of the right-wing activist Charlie Kirk, in which Klein argued that Kirk had practiced politics “the right way.” Coates had published a rejoinder in Vanity Fair, pointing out that Kirk had “reveled in open bigotry.” Their tête-à-tête on Klein’s show, staged at a bare-bones studio table, added a human component to their battle of ideas. Coates looked taken aback as he discussed Klein’s choice not to call out Kirk’s hateful ideology, and supportive viewers turned his skeptical face into a kind of reaction meme. Klein’s more placid affect, meanwhile, did little to absolve him of critiques of political abstraction and whitewashing. In the video-podcast era, those best able to project their authenticity through the small screen win—and it’s not always the people who film themselves the most often.

As the internet’s content-distribution channels become overwhelmingly cluttered with spam, misinformation, and A.I.-generated slop and propaganda, video podcasts have the considerable advantage of serving as markers of reality, at least for now. Viewers are reassured to see a voice coming directly out of a face, and a conversation documented for a stretch of time that would seem difficult to fake. ChatGPT can blandly spit out infinite facts, but individual eloquence is still in limited supply. What’s unclear is whether the video-podcast format can sustain the explosion of entrants as more talking heads in journalism, politics, entertainment, and tech jockey for attention in a digital landscape already beset by chronic distraction. In the past few months alone, we’ve seen the arrival of new video podcasts from Emily Sundberg’s buzzy New York City newsletter “Feed Me”; the sports agent Rich Paul and the ESPN commentator Max Kellerman, under the umbrella of The Ringer; the comedian Ilana Glazer; and PBS. (The New Yorker is not immune to the trend: it now films some episodes of The New Yorker Radio Hour.) Least expected, perhaps, was the launch of “The Liz Truss Show,” hosted by the former British Prime Minister, on YouTube. Truss’s time in office lasted all of six weeks, but, with a clip-on microphone and a wonkish backdrop, perhaps she can gin up a new kind of following, one videotaped chat at a time. ♦

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