The Idiot
Lex Fridman’s expansive, compelling, anti-journalistic podcast style.
At the end of Elon Musk’s fourth sit-down interview with Lex Fridman, one of the world’s most popular interviewers, in November of 2023, Fridman asked Musk about his inner life. Musk, momentarily taken aback, disappeared into another realm. “My mind is a storm,” he said. “I don’t think most people wanna be me. They may think they wanna be me, but they don’t know. They don’t understand.” There was a long pause. Fridman, with the earnestness of a concerned friend, followed up: “How are you doing?” Musk, his glassy eyes darting wildly back and forth, searched for words. “Overall okay,” he mumbled. For a brief moment, Musk appeared delicate, vulnerable—unreservedly human.
Fridman is the host of an eponymous podcast, shared on YouTube with close to five million subscribers. His videos have collectively been seen close to a billion times. In an age of TikTok attention spans, his interviews typically extend the length of a Godfather film—and occasionally, the entire trilogy. He is poised, neutral, sincere. He is almost always wearing a black suit—“to try to really take myself seriously and take every single moment seriously and everything I do seriously,” he has said—his dark hair mowed in a buzz cut. His wide-ranging interests—philosophy, science, politics—have parked him all over the internet, including in meme form: one depicts him as a Simpsons character asking his favorite question, What’s the meaning of life? During that interview with Musk, Fridman opened the conversation by asking about the Roman Empire. Musk joked that he was embodying a cliché: men thinking about the Roman Empire when they’re caught staring off into space. Except, in Fridman’s case, he very likely was, in all seriousness, deep in thought about the Roman Empire.
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